Controversial Political Correctness

ant-mac said:

Shall we now be getting MISTER MARPLE and MURDER HE WROTE also?

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No, because those two detectives aren't in the zetigeist as much as Holmes is. Holmes is the detective everyone knows. Sure, the casual observer may have heard of Marple or Poirot or Dupin, and many know of the show Murder, She Wrote, but unless you're going for a Kevin Smith-style obscure reference, you're not going to call someone Jessica Fletcher because someone they got something right (I mean, you or I would, because fuck stupid people, although calling them C. Auguste Dupin would cause their heads to spin, especially when you go into an hour long spiel about how Doyle ripped of Dupin to create Holmes, but I digress).

And because of that, they use Holmes' popularity to cash in on. Anyone can do a Holmes spinoff, but oh sweet Aphrodite in a gimp suit, Sherlock's a woman now, and suddenly you have everyone declaring it's daring and people will throw their money down to see it (even though it's certainly not new, just one more attempt to get money out of an audience.

Doctor Omega said:

I suspect that not many male heroes will be left standing though. At least not with their meat and two veg intact!

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I don't know about you, but the thought of waking up one day as a woman? You wouldn't see me around for weeks. I'd have some, erm, tests to run. I just hope I can get the wife to cooperate.

chainsaw_metal1 said:

No, because those two detectives aren't in the zetigeist as much as Holmes is. Holmes is the detective everyone knows. Sure, the casual observer may have heard of Marple or Poirot or Dupin, and many know of the show Murder, She Wrote, but unless you're going for a Kevin Smith-style obscure reference, you're not going to call someone Jessica Fletcher because someone they got something right (I mean, you or I would, because fuck stupid people, although calling them C. Auguste Dupin would cause their heads to spin, especially when you go into an hour long spiel about how Doyle ripped of Dupin to create Holmes, but I digress).

And because of that, they use Holmes' popularity to cash in on. Anyone can do a Holmes spinoff, but oh sweet Aphrodite in a gimp suit, Sherlock's a woman now, and suddenly you have everyone declaring it's daring and people will throw their money down to see it (even though it's certainly not new, just one more attempt to get money out of an audience.

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I want to see a variety of genre-based TV programs, featuring a variety of cultures, genders and races.

However, I want to see fresh and new content, with fresh fictional characters and new stories. I want originality, not yet more remakes, re-treads and rip-offs.

If I watch content based upon new creations, I want to watch something that is true to its original source. If I watch content based upon already established creations, I still want to watch something that is true to its original source.

What better way to get diversity and variety in film and on TV?

chainsaw_metal1 said:

I don't know about you, but the thought of waking up one day as a woman? You wouldn't see me around for weeks. I'd have some, erm, tests to run. I just hope I can get the wife to cooperate.

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I'd just buy myself a full-length mirror...

ant-mac said:

If I watch content based upon new creations, I want to watch something that is true to its original source. If I watch content based upon already established creations, I still want to watch something that is true to its original source.

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Yes, that says it all nicely I feel.

There is nothing "bold" about these gender swapped characters. I think it actually shows a paucity of imagination; that they don't have the talent or ability to create powerful, original female characters of their own that can stand shoulder to shoulder against the vintage male heroes of old.

That's the real challenge - and they should really be meeting it, if they consider themselves talented.

Not cheating and taking a short cut (with a painful scalpel too!)

ant-mac said:

I want to see a variety of genre-based TV programs, featuring a variety of cultures, genders and races.

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As do I. Again, all you're doing is proving you're intelligent. Um...good for you?

ant-mac said:

However, I want to see fresh and new content, with fresh fictional characters and new stories. I want originality, not yet more remakes, re-treads and rip-offs.

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Then you need to become a studio head. Again, this is a business, and these people have proven time and again that they would rather hand out stale rehashes than make a gamble on something new but unproven. It sucks. But if they know there's a built-in audience, they'll give us another Fantastic Four film before they buy my script about a young man from Middle America who sets out on a quest to find a drinkable home brew made of unicorn farts.

Yeah, it needs another rewrite.

ant-mac said:

If I watch content based upon new creations, I want to watch something that is true to its original source. If I watch content based upon already established creations, I still want to watch something that is true to its original source.

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Stan Lee argued this when Marvel stated taking its legacy characters and gender swapping them a few years back. There's plenty of room for diversity, just make new characters. Gordon Bennett, it's not that hard a concept.

ant-mac said:

I'd just buy myself a full-length mirror...

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I'd buy a new video camera. Because there's some stuff that just needs to be recorded for posterity.

chainsaw_metal1 said:

As do I. Again, all you're doing is proving you're intelligent. Um...good for you?

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Unfortunately, based upon personal experience, I'm not sure intelligence is a useful survival skill on this planet.

If it is, explain Trump.

Then you need to become a studio head. Again, this is a business, and these people have proven time and again that they would rather hand out stale rehashes than make a gamble on something new but unproven. It sucks. But if they know there's a built-in audience, they'll give us another Fantastic Four film before they buy my script about a young man from Middle America who sets out on a quest to find a drinkable home brew made of unicorn farts.

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Become a studio head...? I like the sound of that.

I've always wanted to see my surname up in lights... WEINSTEIN!

I have a good feeling about this...

Yeah, it needs another rewrite.

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There's always time for one more rewrite.

Stan Lee argued this when Marvel stated taking its legacy characters and gender swapping them a few years back. There's plenty of room for diversity, just make new characters. Gordon Bennett, it's not that hard a concept.

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I thought IRON LADY was an inspired creation... Even if it did piss off Margaret Thatcher's ghost...

I'd buy a new video camera. Because there's some stuff that just needs to be recorded for posterity.

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Forget the video camera... I want a video game based upon this.

ant-mac said:

I thought IRON LADY was an inspired creation... Even if it did piss off Margaret Thatcher's ghost...

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Female Reagan? Yeah, eff that lady.

ant-mac said:

Forget the video camera... I want a video game based upon this.

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One part Mortal Kombat, one part Goldeneye, one part Silent Hill, and all produced by Brazzers. Yes sir, this is gonna be a goldmine!

chainsaw_metal1 said:

Female Reagan? Yeah, eff that lady.

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Female Reagan?

I always though he was a male Thatcher...

Just with smaller testicles.

One part Mortal Kombat, one part Goldeneye, one part Silent Hill, and all produced by Brazzers. Yes sir, this is gonna be a goldmine!

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Sounds like an average day in GRAND THEFT AUTO ONLINE...

This was supposed to be a joke trailer, of course, but most of the comments seem to be along the lines of "I so want to see this really happening now!"


Red Nose Day Indiana Jones Sketch - Anna Kendrick

Also stumbled on this.... Even legends should think twice before saying yes to certain projects!

Would love to see Chris Eccleston in the remake, just so he could say "The filmmakers lied to me!" or something.....





The Teahouse of the August Moon is a 1956 American comedy film that satirizes the U.S. occupation and Americanization of the island of Okinawa following the end of World War II in 1945. The film starred Marlon Brando and was directed by Daniel Mann.

John Patrick adapted the screenplay from his own Pulitzer-Prize- and Tony-Award-winning Broadway play of 1953. The play was, in turn, adapted from a 1951 novel by Vern J. Sneider.[3] The film was entered into the 7th Berlin International Film Festival.


Legacy

Alongside Japanese War Bride and the more famous Sayonara film, The Teahouse of the August Moon was argued by some scholars to have increased racial tolerance in the United States by openly discussing interracial marriages.[8] Other scholars have argued that the movie is one in a long list stereotyping Asian American women as "lotus blossom, geisha girl, china doll, or Suzie Wong" by presenting Asian women as "passive, sexually compliant and easy to seduce" or as downright prostitutes.[9]

In more recent years, the movie has been criticized by some critical theorists and Brando's performance branded as an example of yellowface casting.[10][11]

In 1980, Michael Medved gave Marlon Brando's performance in the film the Golden Turkey Award for "Most Ludicrous Racial Impersonation".

Margot Robbie Plans Shakespeare TV Series

ten standalone episodes, each based on a celebrated work of William Shakespeare but re-told from a female perspective and updated to comment on our modern, global society.

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https://www.imdforums.com/threads/the-works-of-shakespeare.1770/#post-39128

each based on a celebrated work of William Shakespeare but re-told from a female perspective and updated to comment on our modern, global society.

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So not Shakespeare?

ant-mac said:

So not Shakespeare?

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This reminds me of that film, THEATRE OF BLOOD.. when they realise who the psychopathic serial killer is....

IAN HENDRY CHARACTER: Oh, it's Lionheart alright. Only he would have the temerity to rewrite Shakespeare!

chainsaw_metal1 said:

I know I'm overly sensitive to a lot of this, but in Salva's case, I can't separate the art from the "artist", and can't find it in me to support him in any way.

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Yeah I have the same challenge. I used to be a big fan of an Australian entertainer called Rolf Harris. Extremely talented performer and an incredible entertainer. Then a few years ago he was convicted of many accounts of child abuse and I can't listen to his music anymore. The quality of his performances hasn't changed and he's serving time for his crimes. But I still can't separate the performance from the man.

Gavin said:

(as a general rule I believe that once someone has served their sentence they should be given an opportunity to continue with their life)

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I absolutely believe that in principle. Putting it into practice is much more difficult.

Gavin said:

Yeah I have the same challenge. I used to be a big fan of an Australian entertainer called Rolf Harris. Extremely talented performer and an incredible entertainer. Then a few years ago he was convicted of many accounts of child abuse and I can't listen to his music anymore. The quality of his performances hasn't changed and he's serving time for his crimes. But I still can't separate the performance from the man.

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I know that problem well. I still have many of his songs stored on my computer hard drive, but listening to them is a whole other issue.

Mum was also a big fan of his. I'm glad she died before it all came out.

Ed Skrein Reflects On His “Hellboy” Exit





Last year came the news that British and very caucasian actor Ed Skrein had been cast as the Japanese-American character of Major Ben Daimio from the comics in the upcoming reboot of the “Hellboy” film franchise.

This sparked controversy and claims of whitewashing a role which should have gone to an Asian actor. Very quickly though Skrein voluntarily dropped out of the project citing the backlash and saying he he didn’t know the character was of Asian descent when he accepted the role. He asked to be replaced by someone more suitable – with Korean-American actor Daniel Dae Kim ultimately cast in the part.

Skrein received praise for not just his actions but his handling of the whole affair, and in a new interview with ComicBook.com explains the reasoning behind his decision to leave the film:

“We have public personas and such that build up through what people translate in our images, and our aesthetics, and creating their own narratives to that, and the narratives that we create through our interviews.

People build up ideas of us from the characters that we play, but people that know me personally would not be surprised by my reaction to that and that there was no option, and they would have known that that was something that I just wouldn’t have been able to enter into.

Anything I do I have to do wholeheartedly, so no, it was a very simple decision. It meant a lot to me that it meant a lot to other people and that it resonated so much with people.”

The new “Hellboy” has yet to release any publicity material. It is currently slated for release in cinemas on January 11th 2019.

“Battlefield V” Developer Responds To Backlash





Following its announcement trailer on Wednesday, “Battlefield V” has been the subject of online criticism from some vocal players who seemed to take issue with its depiction of a woman in combat during the second World War amidst all the other men.

The attacks, from players using the excuse of a female character’s inclusion in the game being ‘historically inaccurate’, have been responding with dislikes and complaints of political correctness along with hashtags such as #NotMyBattlefield.

Of course history itself would argue with them considering there were more than a few notable women in combat in WW2, but the backlash has become bad enough that Oskar Gabrielson, the general manager of developer DICE, has had to respond to the chatter on Twitter saying effectively if you have a problem with it – it’s your problem:

“First, let me be clear about one thing. Player choice and female playable characters are here to stay. We want ‘Battlefield V’ to represent all those who were a part of the greatest drama in human history, and [to] give players [the] choice to choose and customize the characters they play with. Our commitment as a studio is to do everything we can to create games that are inclusive and diverse. We always set out to push boundaries and deliver unexpected experiences. But above all, our games must be fun.”

“Battlefield V” is slated for release on October 21st for PlayStation 4, Xbox One, and Windows PC.

I am never comfortable with dishonest depictions of history. It just feels fundamentally wrong. Why pretend that society in the past was as enlightened as the society of today?

Being basically lectured by someone who is trying to sell me something does not sit well with me either.

Glad to find out that WWII was "fun" though. My Dad always said different.