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Doctor Omega

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Chat about anything to do with any incarnation of Star Trek here, whether in front of the camera - or behind the scenes!

What are your favourite/least favourite things, Trek-wise?

Your favourite/least favourite movies? Shows?

This thread's a TREK free for all! :emoji_alien:
 
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Doctor Omega

Doctor Omega

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Paramount may have recently clamped down with a Vulcan Death Grip on them, but the STAR TREK FAN MADE FILMS have their followers.

Stop by and feel free to chatter and post about them here...

Favourite productions? Favourite cast/actors? Favourite episodes?

Your reaction to and thoughts on the Paramount guidelines?

Feel free to chat about it all here...
 
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Doctor Omega

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Sadly, the day of the above such productions may already be over, with the recent PARAMOUNT FAN FILM GUIDELINES....

http://www.startrek.com/fan-films


CBS and Paramount Pictures are big believers in reasonable fan fiction and fan creativity, and, in particular, want amateur fan filmmakers to showcase their passion for Star Trek. Therefore, CBS and Paramount Pictures will not object to, or take legal action against, Star Trek fan productions that are non-professional and amateur and meet the following guidelines.


Guidelines for Avoiding Objections:


  1. The fan production must be less than 15 minutes for a single self-contained story, or no more than 2 segments, episodes or parts, not to exceed 30 minutes total, with no additional seasons, episodes, parts, sequels or remakes.
  2. The title of the fan production or any parts cannot include the name “Star Trek.” However, the title must contain a subtitle with the phrase: “A STAR TREK FAN PRODUCTION” in plain typeface. The fan production cannot use the term “official” in either its title or subtitle or in any marketing, promotions or social media for the fan production.
  3. The content in the fan production must be original, not reproductions, recreations or clips from any Star Trek production. If non-Star Trek third party content is used, all necessary permissions for any third party content should be obtained in writing.
  4. If the fan production uses commercially-available Star Trek uniforms, accessories, toys and props, these items must be official merchandise and not bootleg items or imitations of such commercially available products.
  5. The fan production must be a real “fan” production, i.e., creators, actors and all other participants must be amateurs, cannot be compensated for their services, and cannot be currently or previously employed on any Star Trek series, films, production of DVDs or with any of CBS or Paramount Pictures’ licensees.
  6. The fan production must be non-commercial:
    • CBS and Paramount Pictures do not object to limited fundraising for the creation of a fan production, whether 1 or 2 segments and consistent with these guidelines, so long as the total amount does not exceed $50,000, including all platform fees, and when the $50,000 goal is reached, all fundraising must cease.
    • The fan production must only be exhibited or distributed on a no-charge basis and/or shared via streaming services without generating revenue.
    • The fan production cannot be distributed in a physical format such as DVD or Blu-ray.
    • The fan production cannot be used to derive advertising revenue including, but not limited to, through for example, the use of pre or post-roll advertising, click-through advertising banners, that is associated with the fan production.
    • No unlicensed Star Trek-related or fan production-related merchandise or services can be offered for sale or given away as premiums, perks or rewards or in connection with the fan production fundraising.
    • The fan production cannot derive revenue by selling or licensing fan-created production sets, props or costumes.
  7. The fan production must be family friendly and suitable for public presentation. Videos must not include profanity, nudity, obscenity, pornography, depictions of drugs, alcohol, tobacco, or any harmful or illegal activity, or any material that is offensive, fraudulent, defamatory, libelous, disparaging, sexually explicit, threatening, hateful, or any other inappropriate content. The content of the fan production cannot violate any individual’s right of privacy.
  8. The fan production must display the following disclaimer in the on-screen credits of the fan productions and on any marketing material including the fan production website or page hosting the fan production:

    “Star Trek and all related marks, logos and characters are solely owned by CBS Studios Inc. This fan production is not endorsed by, sponsored by, nor affiliated with CBS, Paramount Pictures, or any other Star Trek franchise, and is a non-commercial fan-made film intended for recreational use. No commercial exhibition or distribution is permitted. No alleged independent rights will be asserted against CBS or Paramount Pictures.”
  9. Creators of fan productions must not seek to register their works, nor any elements of the works, under copyright or trademark law.
  10. Fan productions cannot create or imply any association or endorsement by CBS or Paramount Pictures.
CBS and Paramount Pictures reserve the right to revise, revoke and/or withdraw these guidelines at any time in their own discretion. These guidelines are not a license and do not constitute approval or authorization of any fan productions or a waiver of any rights that CBS or Paramount Pictures may have with respect to fan fiction created outside of these guidelines.

- See more at: http://www.startrek.com/fan-films#sthash.qq2Zxrxf.dpuf




Is it dead jim?
 
Doctor Omega

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I think that he was laughing with joy at Bill's success as the director of Star Trek V. :)

While the supporting cast try to hide their love and affection for Bill too.
 
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Did Rick Berman - and Paramount - go back to the well too many times and drive the franchise into the ground, with Deep Space Nine, Voyager, Enterprise and the Next Generation films, all in rapid succession?

What of the Abrams films?

And what are your thought on the future and direction of the franchise, what with STAR TREK DISCOVERY on the horizon?

Have we never had it so good?

Or is the franchise really in trouble? :emoji_confused:
 
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chainsaw_metal1

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I think the fact that he kept the franchise going for as long as he did makes him somewhat of a savior. He helped keep Rodenberry from taking it and completely ruining it, as I feel he would have eventually done. However, I think he could have pushed to have done more, and expanded even further. One issue I had with the expanded television franchise was the fact that it did feel somewhat stagnant after a while. I'm certain that ENTERPRISE was a way to try to break out of that, but with the temporal cold war storyline, they just bogged it down in more political drama like the others had suffocated from. There were so many places they could have gone by expanding on ideas presented in VOYAGER, and looking ahead instead of just rebooting everything. As much as I dig the reboot films - and as much as they helped bring in new fans - it's not really STAR TREK anymore. They need to get back to what made the franchise great to begin with. Philosophy, commentary on current issues, and clever writing.
 
Doctor Omega

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That might sound like a daft question, cos he created the thing.

Obviously there would be no Star Trek without Gene Rodenberry.

But, after the act of creation, do you think his affect upon Star Trek in any of it's forms was a good or bad thing?

Or was he actually counterproductive in the process of getting good quality Trek onto the screen?
 
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chainsaw_metal1

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I can't honestly answer the question, because it's complicated. Roddenberry left for Season 3 of TOS, and the quality was lacking. Then, after several attempts to get another series off the ground, he gave us THE MOTION PICTURE. The story, while re-hashed from a TOS script, was clever, just boring and effects heavy.The best thing the did was put him in a consultant position and allow others to make STAR TREK, which gave us THE WRATH OF KHAN. Roddenberry had control again when he created THE NEXT GENERATION, and it was a great show, but again, writers have gone on record as saying that there were some really great storylines that they were able to write only after Gene had passed away. I think he was a hindrance to the franchise.

I see Gene and George Lucas as being very similar. They had some success with other projects, but then hit it big with one cult project (STAR TREK and STAR WARS, respectively). Both had great vision, and had some help making it great. But eventually, whether it was a matter of them believing their hype or just plain hubris, they thought they knew what made their creations great when they really had lost sight of what it was that made people fall in love with them.
 
Doctor Omega

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The following quote was said by Gene Rodenberry when discussing his unhappiness with Harve Bennett's proposed Starfleet Academy idea for Star Trek VI...

"I didn't like it. Who was going to cast the new Kirk and Spock? No one has ever cast a Trek character besides me that's worked. Braggadocio or whatever, that is the history of Trek. It wasn't good. Some of it was like Police Academy. You could hardly do this without the magic of a group of characters tailored for Star Trek, which this was not."
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Was he right?:

No one has ever cast a Trek character besides me that's worked.

And, after DS9, Voyager, Enterprise and the Abrams films, what do you think he would make of Star Trek Discovery, yet another iteration of his vision, with it's new collection of Trek characters that he never got to cast?
 
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Doctor Omega

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I think you lost perspective Gene.

Which is not a logical thing to do.

But it is the human thing to do.

Thankyou for Star Trek anyway.

We would not have it without you and nobody can take that away from you.

But, sorry, you did not have a monopoly on good casting.

Many of the casts of DS9, Voyager, Enterprise and the Abrams films were very well cast.

Let's hope that Discovery has a good hit rate of well cast actors.
 
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