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Discussion in 'Religion & Spirituality' started by Doctor Omega, Mar 22, 2017.
Does God Exist?
Or why not?
You are asking the wrong question. You have to specify what you mean by this existence. As there is no proof any god in whatever form exists as a living being or that one ever have existed in the past.
Asking if God exists cannot be answered, speaking of something one believes in doesn't make it real nor an acutal presence.
For example, I quote this from a site because I couldn't find the right words for it, but this is somewhat the way I want to explain:
Harlan Ellison's view......
Yes, God exists.
And from what I hear, she's really pissed off.
Of course Bacchus is real. Where else could wine have come from? After all, Cabernet Sauvignon made me the man I am today. Well, and good scotch, bourbon, vodka, beer, stout...
That's depend on who is god for the human kind
That depends on if there is a god for Humankind.
There is,but it's not what humans are expecting to be.
And if you are also Human, then how would you know?
I am a curious person ( don't want to offend anyone ),i don't take anything for granted,i question the world around me,i'm not satisfied with an answer like"because it's normal".I don't denie the existence of god,but i learn that ,in case of who is god for humanity the things are not that simple.
I believe in scientific evidence.
So far, there is none.
That is not to say that there will never be any, but so far there simply is none.
In time,if humanity will be ready,we will learn the truth about us,but i don't think that humanity will accept it.
And how do you know this?
Are you prescient?
No,i'm not( please don't take it personnaly what am i about to say),but you can't convince someone that the things that were learned theyre entire life are different,regardless how many evidence you provide them
For me, that would entirely depend upon the quality of the evidence.
I have little time for the close-minded.
I also have little patience for those who speak of having faith.
They can keep their faith, I want evidence.
So am i ,my friend,so am i
For what it's worth, my feelings are that Xtian fundies and hard-core atheists both fall into the trap of making the same mistake: professing absolute certainty on a matter in which there cannot be any certainty whatsoever, because there's literally no hard evidence on either side. Absence of evidence constitutes neither proof nor disproof, it simply denotes absence of evidence. Both sides strike me as being powered, beneath it all, by the simple fear of uncertainty of the unknown, a universal human fear. All philosophies that take the existence or non-existence of a deity as their chief raison d'etre are, at base, flawed, imo, because of their contamination by that fear. It's hard to live with uncertainty, but frankly, I'd rather live with it than go off making absolute pronouncements on a matter I can't possibly have any certainty on either way.
At the end of the day, nearly all man-made religions posit God as some sort of arcane, inaccessible mystery, the understanding of his purposes completely unknowable to the human understanding. If that's indeed the case, well, okay--I can accept the idea of that, but my question is: why worship an unfathomable mystery? At the very least, you can't even know if you're worshipping it in the way it would choose to be, or if it even does choose to be. If you offer up, as justification, the evidence that your Holy Book of choice delineates what it is that God wants from us, then he's no longer an unknowable mystery because he's made his wishes plain. The irritant of religion for me is that it tries to have it both ways, the irritant of contemporary atheism that it pretends to speak with a voice of authority that in many ways is just as assumed and bogus as the religionists'.
Lot of mouthful to say I don't really hew with either camp, but it's Sunday morning and I'm all fired up on asparagus quiche and my first cuppa joe, lol.
Based upon my personal experience so far, I am certainly in the atheism camp, but I have absolute certainty of nothing, which is why I seek evidence to settle the matter, one way or the other.