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Doctor Omega

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Moffat messed up the numbering, but we know - more or less - how many Doctors there have been....


So who the heck are these guys?

Can we fit them into our head canons somehow?

And would you want to travel with any of these supposed time travellers?
 
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And a year before... in the 1966 King Kong cartoon show, he looked like this....


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Doctor Omega

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I don't know...


I know he is not supposed to be related, but I can't help but try to fit this nefarious version into the canon somehow! :emoji_nerd:

I am thinking Valyard...

Or something? :emoji_head_bandage:
 

Doctor Omega

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And where does this guy actually fit in anyway? :emoji_confused:

"Somewhere between your twelfth and final incarnation" was a bit vague!


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Doctor Omega

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There is also a theory that GARY SEVEN, who featured in a STAR TREK episode might even be a Time Lord - if not the Doctor himself!


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Gavin

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What about these Doctors (plus the Master and a new companion)?

The Curse of Fatal Death was originally written as a parody but since Stephen Moffat has taken charge of Doctor who, many of the "parody" elements of this story have become canon.

 

Doctor Omega

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Doctor Omega (French: Le Docteur Oméga) is a 1906 science fiction novel by French writer Arnould Galopin. Inspired by H. G. Wells's novels The War of the Worlds and The First Men in the Moon, it follows the adventures of the eponymous scientist Doctor Omega and his companions in the spacecraft Cosmos.

The first incarnation of the Doctor, as portrayed by William Hartnell in the long-running BBC science-fiction series Doctor Who bears a great resemblance to the illustrations of Doctor Omega, in the original publication.


Overview

The novel takes place in or around 1906, in an unidentified village in Normandy, then later takes the reader to Mars. The main protagonist, Doctor Omega, is the mysterious inventor of a projectile-shaped spacecraft dubbed Cosmos which can also function on land and under water. Cosmos is 13 meters long and 3 meters in diameter. It is made from a substance called stellite or repulsite(depending on the edition) which repels space and time and enables it to travel in the aether. Its interior is divided into four sections, each lit by electric lights powered by a generator run by an eight-cylinder 200 horsepower (150 kW) motor. The floors are all suspended upon universal joints in order to maintain a normal level. The portholes are made of transparent stellite. In addition to the bridge, the other sections of the ship include a storeroom, an armory, and the crew's sleeping quarters.

Doctor Omega's companions in his travels are two Frenchmen: his neighbour Denis Borel (the narrator), and his worker, the hulkish Fred (no last name given). Doctor Omega and his two companions travel to Mars, where they first land in one of the Martian seas, where they perform some underwater exploration during which they encounter phosphorescent fish and aggressive reptilian mermen. Back on the surface they are attacked by savage dwarf-like beings with long, tentacled arms. Later, they explore the Red Valley in which bat-men have developed artificial wings to cohabit with deadly snakes. They meet another race of civilized macrocephalic gnomes, and are taken before their King, in the city of Fire. They learn to communicate with these Macrocephales, and help them in their war against their Southern enemies, the Cacocytes. The Macrocephales wish to keep Doctor Omega and his companions prisoners on Mars. Doctor Omega and his companions manage to broadcast an SOS however, and are then rescued by the equally mysterious Professor Helvetius. They eventually return to Earth, with the Martian Tiziraou.

Editions

The first edition was published by Librairie Mondiale in Paris, 1906, with illustrations by E. Bouard. The book was later reprinted under the title Les Chercheurs d'Inconnu: Aventures Fantastiques d'un Jeune Parisien (Seekers of the Unknown: The Fantastic Adventures of a Young Parisian) as a 12-issue pulp magazine by Tallandier, Paris, Nos. 1-9, 1908; Nos. 10-12, 1909. For that edition, Galopin changed the name of the ship to "Excelsior" and the substance to "stellite". He also rewrote and expanded several chapters and tried to appeal to a more juvenile audience. A reprint of the first edition was published by Albin Michel in 1949, with illustrations by Rapeno.

In 2003, Los Angeles's Black Coat Press published an edition "adapted and retold" by Jean-Marc Lofficier and Randy Lofficier, with a cover by Gil Formosa. ISBN 0-9740711-0-2does not contain any illustrations; ISBN 0-9740711-1-0 (Collector's Edition) contains a selection of illustrations by Bouard from the first edition. This edition is a free translation, or adaptation, of the first French edition. The credit adapted and retold was first coined by Philip José Farmer for his 1976 adaptation of the J.-H. Rosny novel Ironcastle. In this instance, some plot inconsistencies were removed or fixed; some scientific notions were updated or corrected; some racist or inappropriate language was deleted. Further, homages and references to the fictional characters Arsène Lupin, Dr. Caresco, and Madeline were inserted. Additionally, references were added to imply that Doctor Omega was the Doctorfrom Doctor Who, mainly because of the coincidental - but real - similarities between the two characters (especially the First Doctor, played by William Hartnell from 1963-1966). Frequent Doctor Who writer Terrance Dicks provided a foreword, and the cover illustration was changed to one similar to the 1973 Target Books novelization of The Daleks.

In 2009, French publisher Riviere Blanche reprinted the first edition, with selected illustrations from Bouard and Rapeno, a new foreword by Jean-Marc Lofficier, French translations of Terrance Dicks's foreword, and stories by Chris Roberson, Matthew Baugh, Travis Hiltz and Serge Lehman featuring Dr. Omega; cover by Gil Formosa. In 2011, the American publisher Black Cat Press printed an unabridged English translation with the original illustrations by E. Bouard. In 2014, Explore Multimedia released an unabridged four-disc English audiobook billed as "the possible origins of Doctor Who". Narrated by John Guilor, who supplied the voice of Hartnell's Doctor in episode "The Day of the Doctor").


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Other appearances

Doctor Omega is mentioned and Tiziraou appears in a panel of The New Traveler's Almanac of The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, Volume II.

Doctor Omega appears in several stories in the ongoing anthology Tales of the Shadowmen.

A sequel volume, Doctor Omega and the Shadowmen collect the stories from the above collections, along with new ones. An additional sequel, a novel entitled Doctor Omega and the Electromen by David A. McIntee, has been announced by Black Coat Press, but does not appear to have yet been published.



 

Doctor Omega

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Okay, bit of a stretch this one, I admit, but - as has often been noted - the character that Peter Cushing plays in AT THE EARTH'S CORE....


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... Doctor Abner Perry, has often been noted as being basically the same character as his Doctor in the Dalek films.

So I will shoehorn him in somehow.

Perhaps his Tardis was stranded in the centre of the Earth or something and he needed to drill down to get to it.

Bit of a reach, I know.



 

Doctor Omega

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Okay, the next few Doctors are based upon the (huge) assumption that the faces on screen in "The Brain of Morbius" were, in fact, incarnations of The Doctor.....


But which of them look worthy of the title?

And what do you think their histories are?

Their adventures? Their companions? And how did they meet their end?

Have expanded this now to also assume that they are Morbius. What kind of lives did he lead, before meeting his end on Karn?



 
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Doctor Omega

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IF THEY ARE THE DOCTOR....

For the theory to work - and it is very much a working theory in progress - that this is, indeed, the Doctor, we have to grant him a hitherto unseen first life cycle. Thirteen incarnations.

Working backwards from the Morbius battle screen we get only so far back into those thirteen.

The first few remain a mystery....


THE FIRST DOCTOR

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We know nothing...

The only thing we can presume is that he was born on Gallifrey. Between now and the Sixth Doctor of this life cycle he will leave Gallifrey. And by the time we first see him he is living - or at least adventuring - in the past of Earth.

This raises the question of how he left Gallifrey?

Was it the same Tardis? Unlikely.

Is there a Tardis that we also know nothing of, somehow lost at the end of this life cycle?

THE SECOND DOCTOR

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We know nothing


THE THIRD DOCTOR

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We know nothing.

THE FOURTH DOCTOR

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We know nothing.

THE FIFTH DOCTOR

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We know nothing.


THE SIXTH DOCTOR

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The Sixth Doctor of his mysterious first life cycle - and the first one that we have been able to see.. He seems to care not that he is dressed in a very conspicuous outfit, unless the scanner caught him incognito in one particular adventure in Earth's history? Perhaps his usual clothes are much more Doctorish? As we will progress, he seems perhaps the most gentle of the lot, but there may be more going on behind that placid demeanour than appears. There is hidden steel in this incarnation. Typical Doctor really.


THE SEVENTH DOCTOR


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This one seems more avuncular, but there remains a steely determination behind the eyes. And a general unhappiness. Where did this one's wanderings take him? And what perils did he face?


THE EIGHTH DOCTOR


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There is something very un-Doctorish about this one. In fact he could be interpreted as positively evil. This one seems to have descended into dislikability. He seems to care nothing for anyone or anything. And looks to be plotting something nefarious. A very troubling incarnation of the Doctor. What on Earth was going wrong at this point?


THE NINTH DOCTOR

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A bohemian. Poetry-loving, he likes nothing better to do than hang around with the Shelley's and Byron's of history. His somewhat snobby detachment makes him one of the less admirable Doctors. He would rather be chatting to Keats than saving the universe.


THE TENTH DOCTOR


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Another mad 'un. A lonely, lost soul. He prefers to travel alone. (Perhaps a companion died?) He has seen something that haunts him and is perhaps possessed of a frightening amorality. As likely to push a button that ends mankind as pushing a button that saves them.


THE ELEVENTH DOCTOR

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A wizard like figure.... Could this be Merlin? I just get a feeling that he likes listening to Rick Wakeman's JOURNEY TO THE CENTRE OF THE EARTH. Just a crazy gut instinct.



THE TWELFTH DOCTOR

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As far as I am concerned, that might as well be Gulliver again. Perhaps the Doctor met himself in THE MIND ROBBER? A stern and authoritarian Doctor, but possessed of wisdom and ultimately kindliness.


THE THIRTEENTH DOCTOR


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The thirteenth and final Doctor of this particular life cycle - and the one before Hartnell.

He looks as mad as a march hare. If this is, in fact, the Doctor, he seems fascinating to me. A somewhat dangerous and unpredictable incarnation. The one thing that screams out to me is "Jack the Ripper", which is a little worrying. Victorian London seems a natural setting for this one. Like many of these others, what is he doing away from Gallifrey - and on Earth - when it was always thought that Hartnell was the first to leave that planet?

After this, he must have simply been granted a new life cycle, starting with Hartnell. But why? And why has this first life cycle been hidden away for so long?
 
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Doctor Omega

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IF THEY ARE MORBIUS...

We have to make a couple of big assumptions before we start.

Morbius lost the game. It seems that the Doctor drove an overconfident Morbius "back! Back" to his beginnings, even as he thought he was doing the same to the Doctor.

So, without further evidence, let us assume that the final face on the screen was the first Morbius - and that is the moment he lost. The game was over. There were no other Morbius' to see...

So who were they?


THE FIRST MORBIUS


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If this is truly the first Morbius, and we have nothing to suggest that there are any earlier ones, what is most remarkable is that he has, in this very first incarnation, found his way into the past history of Earth, judging by his attire.

Clearly part of Earth history. What drew him to that planet at such an early stage of his lives?

A second remarkable aspect is that Morbius seems to appear almost kind here, with a friendly appearance and a bit daft. What was he doing in Earth history? Did something happen during his incognito visit to ignite his insanity and a terrible lust for power? The tale of Morbius is not as black and white as it seems perhaps.

What happened to him to change him so?


THE SECOND MORBIUS


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The vibe I am getting from this one is that of a judge. Again a position of power. But is he a judge on Earth, or some other planet? Where has Morbius got to this time? And fairness and true justice are unlikely to be part of this incarnation's agenda. Only one image to go on, but I speculate that Morbius is experiencing his first taste of power and authority and is top of the pile. But where the pile is remains a mystery. Rough speculation, but I would opt for a hanging judge in English history, or leading the Witch Trials of Salem. Something like that. But why?

And what happened to that friendly first Morbius?


THE THIRD MORBIUS


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Once again, he seems to have headed to Earth. Is it possible that there is something hidden in the depths of the history of our insignificant planet that he is desperately hungry to possess? A Gallifreyan artifact? What can it be? Again, there is a cold and ruthless look to that face. A growing and consistent feature of this most dreadful of Time Lords.


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This one doesn't fit. This one doesn't seem to be a Morbius, so to speak. He looks too normal, too human, too ineffectual to be the mass slaughterer of anything. So what is going on? Has he returned to the friendly sanity of his first incarnation? Unlikely. Or has something else happened?

The only way I can rationalise this one is that Morbius has been tracked down by the Time Lords and, desperate to escape them, has used a chameleon watch, in order to fit, unobtrusively into a humanoid society somewhere. But his inner self longs to be free - and it is only a matter of time before the Universe trembles at the name of Morbius again.


THE SIXTH MORBIUS


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Morbius is back. And he's pissed. Resentful of having to spend an entire lifetime as a blissfully useless humanoid, he is thirsty to regain his rightful place as Master of creation. A terrible incarnation, in the worst possible way. This incarnation's callousness has increased drastically. This is the empty gaze of a madman. He has slaughtered millions - and it is all behind that gaze. Again, we cannot fix a location for this one.

Is he the supreme ruler of some backwater planet, still on the run from the Time Lords? Regardless, it seems he ends up on Earth again...

Did he ever leave it before now?


THE SEVENTH MORBIUS


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Morbius seems to have an air of desperation about him here, in he seventh body. There is nothing we can deduce from this about his location. Has he finally left Earth?

The consistent empty callousness remains, as ever, in that gaze.

This is the face of a person who likes to be in complete charge of any and everything. But what is he planning? Where is he located?

It seems he will end up all at sea after this...


THE EIGHTH MORBIUS

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Morbius is clearly now in a different era of Earth's history, perhaps at sea, travelling. Trying to find something. But what?

Again there is that terrible blankness to the eyes.

Few who cross this incarnation's path survive. There is an air of great superiority behind the deceptively avuncular gaze. From here he will - I contend - end up in Victorian London?


THE NINTH MORBIUS


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Sticking with the Jack the Ripper notion of this incarnation, let us assume that, for some reason, Morbius was in fact the Whitechapel killer.

This raises the question of why?

Nefarious experiments that require body parts. What can that be all about?

There is a horrifying blankness to Morbius here. He cares not for anyone or anything. A true psychopath.

Could Magnus Greel and he have crossed paths at some point?

It is after this incarnation that he ends up fleeing to Karn. We can only assume that the Time Lords tracked him down in Earth's history and he made his escape, regenerating in the process.


THE TENTH MORBIUS

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And so to Karn. And a terrible accident that ravages the body of Morbius into a state where regeneration is no longer possible.

Robbed of his remaining lives, he becomes a bitter brain in a jar; that long ago kindly first Morbius but a distant memory....
 
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