How Authentic a Trek Show is This?

  • This feels like the real deal!

    Votes: 1 10.0%
  • Have these guys even watched the original series?

    Votes: 9 90.0%
  • I'm still on the fence

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    10

Doctor Omega

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Lots Of New “Star Trek: Discovery” Details


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A big portion of CBS’ Television Critics Association panel was devoted to the upcoming launch of “Star Trek: Discovery” with the show’s new opening titles music, crafted by a 60 piece orchestra, played for the first time to that crowd.

Producer Akiva Goldsman was on hand for the panel and revealed a bunch of new information (via Slashfilm). First up, he says the show is heavily serialised – more than even “Star Trek: Deep Space Nine” was:

“You will find this to be far more than serialized than DS9 even in its last two seasons. So this is by far, let me amend it, the most serialized version of Star Trek that has ever existed, and as such, it’s longform character storytelling. Without conflict, there is no longform character storytelling.”

Obviously, there’s a tremendous amount of conflict in TOS and there’s a lot of, sort of, aspirations towards the ideals of the Federation, and then we sort of made the prime directive just to break it, apparently. So part of what we’ve tried to do is speak to how those philosophical precepts came to be.

So it is entirely the outcome role of the show to arrive at the principles, the utopian principles that I think are endemic to Star Trek and at the same time not to suggest that doing that is simple or easy. But you can’t simply be accepting and tolerant without working for it, and so this show is about that struggle. You’ll tell us whether we succeeded, but the outcome is always to earn the philosophy rather than present it as a fait accompli.”

The story is set ten years before the original series, the time of the Federation-Klingon War and Goldsman suggests that will be dealt with entirely in this first season:

“We are in a section of canon that has been referred to a lot. There is a lot of speculation about it. We are considering the novels not to be canon, but we are aware of them. And, we are going to cross paths with components that Trek fans are familiar with, but it is its own standalone story with its own characters and its own unique vision of Trek.

There’s a period where our contact with the Klingons is nebulous. We are trying to view the idea of the creation of the Neutral Zone as something that was sufficiently inexact that we can now fill in how we got there. Our story of the Klingon War is our season one.”

Showrunners Aaron Harberts and Gretchen J. Berg indicate that despite going to streaming where the content restrictions of broadcast and syndication don’t apply, they still plan to keep the show family friendly. Harberts tells EW:

“Every writer’s impulse when you get to work on the streaming shows with no parameters is to go crazy. But then you look at things like: How does nudity play on Trek? Eh, it feels weird. How does a lot of [profanity] on Trek? Not so great. Are there moments where it merits it that we’re trying to push here and there? I would say we’re trying to push more by having the type of complicated messed-up characters who aren’t necessarily embraced on broadcast.

I’m not saying we’re not doing some violent things or doing a tiny bit of language. But what’s important to the creative team is the legacy of the show… We want to make sure we’re not creating a show that fans can’t share with their families. You have to honor what the franchise is. I would say we’re not going much beyond hard PG-13.”

Harberts also confirmed the naming of Sonequa Martin-Green’s character Michael Burnham was done by previous showrunner Bryan Fuller and is a recurring motif of his to name his lead women with names normally associated with men.

Fuller also was heavily involved in the redesign of the Klingons. Herberts says:

“One of the things he really, really wanted to do was shake up the design of the Klingons. One of the first things that he ever pitched to us when we were deciding whether or not to come on the show was his aesthetic for the Klingons and how important it was that they be aesthete, that they not be the thugs of the universe, that they be sexy and vital and different from what had come before.

They drilled down in such a deep way to redundant pieces of anatomy, to the different plates on the head. We were in discussions that got so deep into biology and into sculpture. From the time that Neville [Page, creature designer] brought in the 3D printout into the writers’ room of the Klingon, that design really hasn’t changed.

The Klingon ship, the flagship of the Klingons, which you’ll see in some of the stills, that design, again, very important to Bryan, very hands-on, worked with Mark Worthington for months and months to get it right. We think that it’s unique, and we saw no reason to change his vision for those Klingons.”

“Star Trek: Discovery” premieres on CBS All Access on September 24th. Check out a bunch of new posters from the series below.
 

Doctor Omega

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Am staying neutral until I have seen DISCOVERY, but - meanwhile - here's an interview with someone who had genuine talent discussing the birth of a VERY different show....


 

Doctor Omega

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Shatner on STAR TREK DISCOVERY canon.....


I just love how frazzled some of you get about canon. It’s a show and they are doing a prequel to something that was made 50 years ago. Star Trek was always more about the stories and messaging than the look. If they screw that up; roast em alive and kick em in the you know what! If they don’t; then enjoy it. Kirk out!
 

Doctor Omega

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William Shatner Says He Is ‘Perfectly Fit’ To Return As Kirk For More Star Trek

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Once again, it’s time to talk about whether William Shatner will ever return to his role as Captain James T. Kirk. The notion came up in a new interview with the actor in Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada. He was asked by the Regina Leader Post if he would be willing to return:

“I’m perfectly fit and ready to put on some makeup …. The problem I guess is what do you do with an aging captain whose youthful existence is already there?” said Shatner, now 86.

The problem with bringing Kirk back in the movies isn’t about him being aging captain who might interact with his younger self, as they obviously found a way to bring back Leonard Nimoy (twice), in both 2009’s Star Trek and 2013’s Star Trek Into Darkness.

The real issue is the fate that befell the Captain during Shatner’s last run as Kirk in 1994’s Star Trek: Generations. (Spoiler: he falls off a bridge and dies.) Even though there were some discussions about Shatner returning for some of the more recent Star Trek movies, producer J.J. Abrams said last summer “there’s something about his having died that makes it impossible.” Then again, Abrams also said that in Star Trek “nearly anything is possible.” So, if he got a pitch that he didn’t find contrived … you never know.

Of course with the CBS All Access show Star Trek: Discovery in production, there is another possible place for Kirk to show up. They wouldn’t have the same issues with jumping from one reality to the other, but could they ever afford him on a TV budget?
 

Doctor Omega

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“Discovery” To Give Klingons Extra Senses

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Speaking at a Las Vegas convention the other day, the creature designers for the upcoming CBS All Access series “Star Trek: Discovery” have indicated that the new show’s version of the Klingons will boast changes going beyond their new look baldness.

The designers, Neville Page and Glenn Hetrick, have revealed that the series is going to explore the idea of the Klingon forehead ridges serving an important biological purpose – they have extra-sensory receptors. Actor Mary Chieffo explains to TrekMovie:

“Obviously the hair was the biggest thing people noticed, or the lack thereof. And I will attest to the fact there is a reason my ridge goes back the way it does. There are sensors and pheromones…There is a whole reasoning behind it that is adhering to what has always been true in Klingon canon…So I deeply believe we are in line with what has come before but is also adding a new kind of nuance.”

Page says the change was a mandate from original showrunner Bryan Fuller. Fuller was also the one that pushed for the release of the show’s first tie-in novel “Desperate Hours” which is set one year before the events of ‘Discovery’ which explores Lieutenant Michael Burnham’s work on the Shenzou and her growing relationship with Captain Philippa Georgiou.

“Star Trek: Discovery” premieres on CBS All Access on September 24th.
 

Doctor Omega

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It feels like they are stretching it's lack of continuity to such a breaking point that they might as well call it something else entirely.

And, while I love Bill Shatner to bits, I have no respect for his viewpoint on the franchise, for I feel that the only respect that he has for Trek is related to how much money he can make from it: a fact that he wised up to many years ago and has exploited to the max with his Tekwar books, Shatnerverse novels, documentaries, Star Trek Memories books ad infinitum, ad nauseum.

So his viewpoint on continuity is irrelevant to me as I do not believe it is from the mouth of someone who actually gives a damn about Trek, full stop.
 

Doctor Omega

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Michael Burnham played by Sonequa Martin-Green.

First contact is Burnham’s specialty
Speaking to SFX, Sonequa Martin-Green (Burnham) described her character in more depth:

I’m a xenoanthropologist, I also had another field of study while at the Vulcan Science Academy. I’m the only human to have gone to the Vulcan Learning Centre and the Vulcan Science Academy and excelled at that. As a xenoanthropologist, I’m also essentially and inherently a first contact specialist as well.



Burnham has a good reason not to like the Klingons
James Frain (Sarek) revealed more about how his relationship with Burnham comes about:

…we see Sarek as a younger man, and we discover that he has been made responsible for Michael’s upbringing – her parents were killed while being hosted at the Vulcan Academy when there was a Klingon attack. So we feel responsible for her, take her in, and I raise her in my family as a Vulcan.


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Doctor Omega

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Star Trek: Discovery Will Not Have Standalone Episodes


BS All Access is set to boldly go where no streaming service has gone before with next month's Star Trek: Discovery. And as one of the series' creators recently revealed, that platform will allow Discovery to take some narrative risks - including taking on a more serialized nature.

In a recent interview with TrekMovie, Alex Kurtzman addressed Discovery's narrative structure - as well as the lack of standalone episodes.

"The fact that we are on a streaming channel," Kurtzman explained, "allows us to tell the stories in a different way. These are serialized stories. They are not stand-alone stories."


Although Discovery's ensemble will be put in a wide array of situations across the show's first season, Kurtzman hinted that the narrative effect of each episode will be felt. According to Kurtzman, this choice will allow the series to further develop its cast of characters in a new way.

"There is an emotional continuity," Kurtzman revealed, "and characters are learning as they go. They don’t forget what happened last week. And that is really exciting."

With modern television frequently using this episodic technique, Kurtzman expressed his excitement towards bringing Discovery into that fold.

"So in the way you would watch any series for the characters and for that approach," Kurtzman added, "we get to do that here and that is really exciting."

This isn't the only updated choice that Discovery plans on making. From introducing the franchise's first openly gay tv character to breaking one mandate from Trek creator Gene Roddenberry, the series is already taking quite a few risks. Judging by CBS' excitement towards the project's debut, it's safe to assume that those changes will pay off.

Star Trek: Discovery premieres Sept. 24, 2017.

Set 10 years prior to the five-year mission of the Enterprise in Star Trek: The Original Series, Star Trek: Discovery follows the adventures of Starfleet on their missions to discover new worlds and new lifeforms, and one Starfleet officer who must learn that to truly understand all things alien, you must first understand yourself. The series will feature a new ship, new characters, and new missions while embracing the same ideology and hope for the future that inspired a generation of dreamers and doers.
 

Doctor Omega

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Star Trek: Discovery Producers Explain Why Klingons Look So Different


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When Star Trek: Discovery premieres on CBS All Access this September, fans will notice some visual differences from previous Star Trek shows, including new transporter rooms and phasers. Fans will also notice that the Klingons, aliens known for their ridge foreheads, look different.

According to EW, Discovery showrunner Aaron Harberts said that the original series showrunner Bryan Fuller wanted to change the look of the Klingons, and he was involved in the resdesign. Harbert points out that the Klingons' appearances have frequently changed over the franchise's 52 years.

"In the different versions of Trek, the Klingons have never been completely consistent. We will introduce several different houses with different styles. Hopefully, fans will become more invested in the characters than worried about the redesign."
 

Doctor Omega

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“Discovery” To Give Klingons Extra Senses


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Speaking at a Las Vegas convention the other day, the creature designers for the upcoming CBS All Access series “Star Trek: Discovery” have indicated that the new show’s version of the Klingons will boast changes going beyond their new look baldness.

The designers, Neville Page and Glenn Hetrick, have revealed that the series is going to explore the idea of the Klingon forehead ridges serving an important biological purpose – they have extra-sensory receptors. Actor Mary Chieffo explains to TrekMovie:

“Obviously the hair was the biggest thing people noticed, or the lack thereof. And I will attest to the fact there is a reason my ridge goes back the way it does. There are sensors and pheromones…There is a whole reasoning behind it that is adhering to what has always been true in Klingon canon…So I deeply believe we are in line with what has come before but is also adding a new kind of nuance.”

Page says the change was a mandate from original showrunner Bryan Fuller. Fuller was also the one that pushed for the release of the show’s first tie-in novel “Desperate Hours” which is set one year before the events of ‘Discovery’ which explores Lieutenant Michael Burnham’s work on the Shenzou and her growing relationship with Captain Philippa Georgiou.

“Star Trek: Discovery” premieres on CBS All Access on September 24th.
 

Doctor Omega

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Star Trek: Discovery Reveals New Klingon Character Kol


Star Trek: Discovery has revealed the intimidating first look at Klingon Commander Kol.

Take a look at actor Kenneth Mitchell in full Klingon makeup and costume as Kol in the image below.


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The reveal was made during a panel at the Star Trek Las Vegas convention, where Mitchell recalled showing the photo to his son.


"Now all my son wants to do is play Klingon," he laughed.

Mitchell went on to detail the three-and-a-half hour process of getting into his Klingon makeup, plus another half hour of getting into costume, and what he does to pass the time.

"First, Doug Jones (Saru) comes in and gives me a hug," Mitchell joked at first. "I'm always going over the Klingon language. I'm constantly running my lines over and over again [while getting ready]. Because it's incredibly difficult. It takes a lot of muscle memory pronouncing the syllables over and over again.

"It's very much like an opera," Mitchell continued. "Even if you don't understand the language, you understand the emotions and the body language."

The Klingons are said to play a very important role in Star Trek: Discovery as the Klingon Empire and the Federation find themselves at war with each other, so fans should probably expect to see a lot of Kol.

Set 10 years prior to the five-year mission of the Enterprise in Star Trek: The Original Series, Star Trek: Discovery follows the adventures of Starfleet on their missions to discover new worlds and new lifeforms, and one Starfleet officer who must learn that to truly understand all things alien, you must first understand yourself. The series will feature a new ship, new characters, and new missions while embracing the same ideology and hope for the future that inspired a generation of dreamers and doers.

Star Trek: Discovery’s cast also includes Jason Isaacs as the starship Discovery's Captain Lorca, Rainn Wilson as Star Trek: The Original Series character HarryMudd, James Frain as Sarek, Spock’s father, and Michelle Yeoh as CaptainGeorgiou, the captain of another Starfleet ship, the Shenzhou, which will be important to the plot of Star Trek: Discovery. Doug Jones and Anthony Rapp both play science officers. Mary Wiseman will play a final year Starfleet Academy cadet.

Star Trek: Discovery was created by Bryan Fuller and Alex Kurtzman. Fuller was originally intended to be Discovery's showrunner but was forced step down due to commitments to Starz' adaptation of Neil Gaiman's American Gods. Gretchen J. Berg and Aaron Harberts have taken over as showrunners.

Star Trek: Discovery was announced in 2015 and, though the series intends to abandon at least one key Roddenberry principal and adjust the series for modern expectation, CBS hoped to have the series debut as part of Star Trek’s 50th-anniversary celebration. CBS missed that window and instead, the series will come close to a debut on the 30th anniversary of Star Trek: The Next Generation.

Star Trek: Discovery premieres Sept. 24, 2017.
 

Doctor Omega

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And then, ten years later the Klingons look like this.....


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Paramount got away with one drastic change in the Klingons' appearance by explaining it in ENTERPRISE.

But to ask us to look away again like this is being unfair, I think and stretches things to a breaking point.

Especially setting it a decade before Kirk.

A post Nemesis series, with these things being new aliens (who had, perhaps, wiped out the entire Klingon race) would have been much more palatable, I think, and also have allowed for lots of lovely cameos from the Berman shows.
 

Doctor Omega

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I also agree that the design and execution of these new versions is... well, a bit cheap looking and rubbish.:emoji_confused:


I don't think think they would have looked out of place in this movie......



 
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