Review The Last Jedi - an in-depth discussion

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  1. TheIrishAvenger

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    Thanks Dave. I have yet to see the film, but will be checking out your review as soon as I have. :emoji_alien:
     
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    Rotten Tomatoes Denies “Last Jedi” Interference


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    The first real indicator that set off the now week long debates amongst fans regarding “Star Wars: The Last Jedi” wasn’t the film’s strong 92% Rotten Tomatoes critics score, but rather its surprising 54% audience score on the same site. Despite frequent talk of critics and audience tastes differing on many films, the difference in their RT approval ratings is rarely so massive.

    As ComScore and CinemaScore polls tracking audience members exiting the cinema have come in and shown a score much closer to the critics ones, there’s been an understandable suspicion that organized voting campaigns and even possible bot targeted interference was responsible for the RT user score being so skewed.

    Fandango’s Vice President of Communications and Rotten Tomatoes spokesperson Dana Benson has now come out and verified the authenticity of the audience score in an interview with Forbes, saying the film ratings site goes to great lengths in order to ensure the authenticity of their scores:

    “We have several teams of security, network, and social database experts who constantly monitor reviews and ratings to ensure that they are genuine. They haven’t seen anything unusual with The Last Jedi, except that there has been an uptick in the number of written user reviews submitted.

    Aside from that, everything is normal and we don’t see any unusual activity. We looked at The Last Jedi compared to other blockbusters and it has been consistent with those past films. We’ve been working around the clock to get the numbers right.

    Authenticity is very important to us. We have security teams, network teams, database teams who work so hard, it’s a little disheartening for them to see people make such [accusatory] claims without knowing the facts.”

    Benson adds that the latest Star Wars film has received a ‘comparable number of reviews to The Force Awakens’ at the same point in the film’s cycle. “Star Wars: The Last Jedi” is now playing in cinemas.
     
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    @TheIrishAvenger Beautifully written. You said everything I thought about the movie. The only thing I thought is that
    I absolutely love the idea of Rey coming from nothing, and not having a connection to the past. One of the things that annoys me about the prequels (and prequels in general), is how everyone and everything has to be connected in some way. It's one of those things that I'm sure is just an issue for me, but it's something that just bugs me.
    Excellent review, thought, mate!
     
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    Hamill Says “He’s Not My Luke Skywalker”


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    The Luke Skywalker we meet at the beginning of “Star Wars: The Last Jedi” is quite different from the one we last met at the end of “Return of the Jedi”. In the three-decade span between the trilogies, Luke has shut himself off from the galaxy and has no interest in helping the Resistance due to his lack of faith in the ways of the Jedi.

    He’s a grump, bitter and defeated with regrets a mile long over failures in his past. That’s a bold decision for a character, making what was an iconic hero into something much more human and flawed – fitting with the themes of the film about perceptions of legacy and deconstructions of the very myths the series was built on.

    In the complaints against the film online, its treatment of Luke is one that comes up a lot and it turns out the actor who plays him – the one and only Mark Hamill – feels the same way. He tells Youtube channel Jar Jar Abrams:

    “I said to Rian, ‘Jedi’s don’t give up.’ I mean, even if he had a problem, he would maybe take a year to try and regroup. But if he made a mistake, he would try and right that wrong. So, right there we had a fundamental difference, but it’s not my story anymore. It’s somebody else’s story – and Rian needed me to be a certain way to make the ending effective.

    …That’s the crux of my problem. Luke would never say that. I’m sorry. Well, in this version, see I’m talking about the George Lucas Star Wars. This is the next generation of Star Wars, so I almost had to think of Luke as another character. Maybe he’s Jake Skywalker. He’s not my Luke Skywalker, but I had to do what Rian wanted me to do because it serves the story well.

    But listen, I still haven’t accepted it completely. But it’s only a movie. I hope people like it. I hope they don’t get upset, and I came to really believe that Rian was the exact man that they need for this job.”

    You can see his answer in the video below. “Star Wars: The Last Jedi” is now in cinemas.
     
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    Thanks man, glad you liked the review and the movie. I agree on your own thoughts about
    connections. I wouldn't say it annoys me, but I definitely don't think it's necessary to tell a good story.
     
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    “Last Jedi” Comics, Cut Scene Talk & More


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    Last week came word that the upcoming novelization of “Star Wars: The Last Jedi” on March 6th will include deleted scenes not in the film, indeed it has long been known that the Blu-ray release of the movie is said to contain around 20 minutes of cut scenes as an extra.

    Now comes word that “Rogue One: A Star Wars Story” scribe Gary Whitta will pen completely new scenes for the story for the upcoming graphic novel adaptation. IGNreports the six-issue series, with art by Michael Walsh, will provide a new perspective on events we saw unfold on the big screen. The comic will likely include one scene that is confirmed for the novelization but won’t be in the disc cut scenes – Han Solo’s funeral.

    Johnson recently spoke with Comicbook.com about one key scene that made it into the movie – Rey entering the Dark Side pit and finding a long line of mirror images of herself. Johnson said the image was in his head before he began serious work on the film:

    “It was just an image that came into my head of this infinite line of, you know, possibilities of self in this infinite line of possibilities of identity and the notion then of playing with which one is the quote-unquote real her. Which one is going to be her and where does it end, and it does end someplace. It ends at a place that shows her basically her kind of worst fear which is that it’s just her.”

    He also tells Collider that at one point the visit to Canto Bight would’ve been Finn and Poe rather than Finn and Rose:

    In the very first draft I wrote of it, Poe went with Finn on the mission to Canto Bight, and the two of them were going to be together on the mission. And it didn’t work at all because those two get along so well and so it was just really boring.”

    Johnson revealed that the cut scenes on the disc will include two key extended sequences. One has Rey and Luke visiting a village where the Caretakers (the Nun Fishes) live, the other is a sequence where Rose, and Finn, and DJ are sneaking through the Mega Destroyer.



     
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