Review John & Yoko

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    John Lennon and Yoko Ono are getting their own biopic.


    Ono is working on the film with producer Michael De Luca whose credits include Captain Phillips, Moneyball and The Social Network. Anthony McCarten, who wrote the Stephen Hawkings’ biopic Theory of Everything, is also attached to the project.

    “The story will focus on ripe and relevant themes of love, courage and activism in the U.S. — with the intention of inspiring today’s youth to stand up for and have a clear vision for the world they want,” De Luca told The Hollywood Reporter.

    There is no word yet as to who will be cast in the lead roles, or when the film will begin production.


    A tv movie was made, on the same subject, in 1985.......


    https://www.imdforums.com/threads/john-and-yoko-a-love-story-1985.972/







     
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    Two days before the assassination.....


     
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    For all his faults (which ran deep) Lennon sure knew how to pen a tune.

    Mind you, people tend to forget a lot of his mediochre to bad solo work.

    But when he shone, he shone.
     
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    Not everyone has had good things to say though...

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    I knew Yoko Ono was evil. She broke up the Beatles!
     
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    Knowing that Yoko has a hand in making this makes me less than enthusiastic about seeing it. Obviously, she knew John best, but I think what we'll get is a one-sided story about how the other Beatles were assholes to her and John, and she's just a victim in all of it.
    Yeah, but Linda had a role in it as well. Musicians gotta learn not to let their significant others in on band issues.
     
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    Really? Linda?
     
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    While Yoko was certainly the biggest instigator - insisting on John bringing her into rehearsals, driving a wedge between John and Paul - I had always read that Linda, in her own way, helped split the band up. Both women sat behind the scenes telling their men that they were better off without the other, and both John and Paul had egos that needed that push. Granted, there were other things going on as well,and without the impetus, they most likely wouldn't have lasted more than another few years, but it had always seemed to me - from what I had read - that both women had pushed the split much sooner.

    Of course, one does have to take into account that, during the 70s when John and Yoko were split, he and Paul had reignited their friendship and had considered a collaboration until Yoko put a stop to it when she and John got back together.
     
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    I think it might be more interesting and revealing to have a movie shedding some light - finally - on The Ballad of Sam & Yoko: A Love Story....

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    The dark truth about Yoko: DJ who secured legendary last interviews with John Lennon reveals disturbing questions about her cynical scheming, her 'sham' marriage and her lover who dressed in star's clothes
    • BBC man Andy Peebles interview Lennon and Yoko Ono in 1980
    • Two days later, Lennon was assassinated in New York City by a crazed fan
    • Following the pivotal interview, Peebles struck up a friendship with Ono
    • Speaking for the first time, he recalls his misgivings about her conduct after Lennon's death - including how she acted with her new boyfriend

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...th-Yoko-Ono-revealed-BBC-DJ-Andy-Peebles.html



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    "I'm Losing You": John Lennon

    Here in some stranger's room
    Late in the afternoon
    What am I doing here at all?
    Ain't no doubt about it
    I'm losing you
    I'm losing you

    Somehow the wires have crossed
    Communication's lost
    Can't even get you on the telephone
    Just got to shout about it
    I'm losing you
    I'm losing you

    Well, here in the valley of indecision
    I don't know what to do
    I feel you slipping away
    I feel you slipping away
    I'm losing you
    I'm losing you

    Well now you say you're not getting enough
    But I remind you of all that bad, bad, bad stuff
    So what the hell am I supposed to do?
    Just put a band-aid on it?
    And stop the bleeding now
    Stop the bleeding now
    Well...

    I'm losing you
    I'm losing you

    Well, well, well
    I know I hurt you then
    But hell, that was way back when
    Well, do you still have to carry that cross? (Drop it!)
    Don't wanna hear about it
    I'm losing you
    I'm losing you

    Don't wanna lose you now
    Well...
    No, no, no, no...




    Yoko was not happy with this raw and edgy first version of I'M LOSING YOU and sacked the musicians, resulting in this less edgy version on the final album of DOUBLE FANTASY.....


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    And then, on the same album, Yoko composed a reply song to John's.....





    I'm Moving On: Yoko Ono

    Save your sweet talk
    For when you score,
    Keep your monday kisses
    For your glass lady.
    I want the truth and nothing more,
    Im moving on,
    Moving on,
    Youre getting phony.

    You didnt have to tell me a white lie,
    You know you scored me for life.
    Dont stick your fingers in my pie,
    You know, Ill see through your jive.
    I want the truth and nothing more,
    Im moving on,
    Moving on,
    Were getting phony.

    When you were angry
    You had love in your eyes,
    When you were sad
    You had dream in your voice.
    Now youre giving me your window smile,
    Im moving on,
    Moving on,
    Its getting phony.

    Moving on!
     
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    Slightly off topic, but......







    An entitled brat, walking out during an interview (at around 7.55) because the interviewer won't shut up about his father and not Sean's new album?

    Or does he have a valid point and they should be concentrating on Sean's music and not the legend that was his brutally murdered and lost father?
     
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    One could argue both, but the latter is the most obvious. I remember an interview with Brandon Lee, where he sat in a woman's office who was looking to cast him. On the back of his promo photo, someone had written "Bruce Lee's Son". She asked if it annoyed him, to which he quipped, "Not if you don't mind being referred to as the blond with big tits". Apparently, she did mind.

    So yeah, you can talk about their famous lineage, but they want to make it on their own and are proud of their work. So let them be their own persons.
     
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    While, of course, they have the right to choose whichever vocation they please, I sometimes think that - considering the many, many vocations that they could have opted for - they make a rod for their own back by choosing the very same vocation that their parent made such an impact in. It just simply invites comparison.

    Someone like Stella McCartney perhaps has the right idea? Going into a field that she can make her own mark in, unfettered by direct comparisons with her father or mother? Although I suspect nepotism is still strongly at work, the family name giving them a huge advantage, at least they are striking out in a new creative area.

    I remember Julian for SALTWATER, and MUCH TOO LATE FOR GOODBYES, but have never really listened to anything of Sean's yet.















    01. Dead Meat
    02. Wait For Me
    03. Parachute
    04. Friendly Fire
    05. Spectacle
    06. Tomorrow
    07. On Again Off Again
    08. Headlights
    09. Would I Be The One
    10. Falling Out Of Love
     
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    The song that John and Yoko were recording, mixing and editing the night he was murdered...... Yoko released it as a 45rpm single after John's death


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    WALKING ON THIN ICE







    On the B-side was an old song of Yoko's that she re-recorded and remixed. She added some audio of John walking in Central Park from 1980......

    IT HAPPENED






    The back cover, with a message from Yoko.....



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    And, getting back to the subject of Linda.....


    McCartney tells of hurt at mockery of Linda's singing


    https://www.independent.ie/world-news/mccartney-tells-of-hurt-at-mockery-of-lindas-singing-26088404.html


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    A BOOTLEG tape of the late Linda McCartney singing out of tune caused her so much hurt that Sir Paul McCartney has revealed that it was a prime reason for his latest project - a documentary on the history of his band Wings.

    The tape, isolating Linda McCartney's backing vocals to "Hey Jude" at a concert at Knebworth with sound engineers laughing, has been passed round the music industry for years.





    Sir Paul has now released a double greatest hits CD Wingspan and an accompanying TV documentary, in which he is interviewed by his daughter Mary about the creation of the group and its chart success.

    But in an interview to be published in Mojo magazine later this week, Sir Paul says that a major motivation for the whole exercise was to exorcise the humiliation of that tape and the criticism of Linda that resulted. He says of the CD/documentary: "The great thing is, it vindicates Linda. I know she wanted to do the Wingspan thing. She knew that if it was laid out correctly, people would get the idea. With all the slagging off she got, like the famous Knebworth tape.

    "The truth is she was doing this (he stands and raises his hands above his head to clap). She was the big cheerleader. But you don't see the visual. You just hear this out-of-tune-voice, and I know she always wanted the record put straight. And this does.

    "You see her playing. And you hear her singing beautifully."

    Sir Paul also talks in the interview about his relationship with John Lennon. He shows, not for the first time, his resentment at the stereotyping of Lennon as the working-class Beatle.

    "Everyone thought John was the hard, working-class hero. As you know, if you look at his house, he was actually the middle-class one from Woolton. We were the scruffs. He had the full works of Winston Churchill. Nobody any of us knew had that," said McCartney.

    But he also speaks tenderly of his reconciliation with Lennon shortly before the latter's murder.

    "It's one of the great blessings of my life that during the last year we made it up," he said.
     
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    So she watered his song down and used edgy lyrics herself - what a bitch!
     
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    Tracklist

    00:00 Goodbye Sadness
    03:50 Mindweaver
    08:15 Even When You're Far Away
    13:36 Nobody Sees Me Like You Do
    17:10 Turn of the Wheel
    19:54 Dogtown
    23:18 Silver Horse
    26:22 I Don't Know Why
    30:41 Extension 33
    33:26 No, No, No
    36:11 Will You Touch Me
    38:49 She Gets Down on Her Knees
    43:04 Toyboat
    46:37 Mother of the Universe
    51:09 Walking on thin ice




     
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